The ATP (Around The Post), the pickleball reset shot, and the third-shot drop are three shots that separate recreational players from competitive ones — and the ATP is the only one that makes highlight reels. The ATP shot travels entirely around the outside of the net post, never crossing above the net, yet lands legally inside your opponent’s court. If you play competitive pickleball at the 3.5 level or above, understanding the ATP isn’t optional — opponents will hit it against you, and missing the setup when it appears means giving away free points.
The ATP matters because it turns a defensive situation into an instant winner. When your opponent drags you wide with a sharp-angled dink or drive, conventional wisdom says the point is lost. The ATP rewrites that calculation. Executed correctly, it produces a crossing angle so severe that even a well-positioned opponent cannot reach the return.
Most players either attempt the ATP too frequently (leading to forced errors) or ignore it entirely (leaving clean opportunities on the table). Neither extreme is correct. The real skill is recognizing the exact moment a genuine ATP window opens — and then having the mechanics ready to convert it.
Below is a complete guide to the ATP shot: what makes it legal, when to attempt it, how to execute it step by step, and how to practice until the mechanics become instinctive.

What Is the ATP Shot in Pickleball?
The ATP shot — short for Around The Post — is a shot where the ball travels around the outside of the net post rather than over the top of the net. The ball passes completely outside the sideline boundary, loops around the post, and lands inside the opponent’s correct service box. No part of the flight path needs to clear the net.
This distinguishes the ATP from every other standard shot in pickleball. A dink, drive, drop, or lob all share one requirement: the ball must travel above the net cord to be valid. The ATP eliminates that requirement entirely. As long as the ball clears the post on the outside and lands in bounds, it counts — regardless of whether it passes below net height during the arc.
The shot produces an extreme cross-court angle that is geometrically impossible to achieve with any over-the-net shot. That angle is both its weapon and its setup requirement: without enough width, the geometry doesn’t exist.
Why the ATP Is Perfectly Legal
The ATP is fully legal under USA Pickleball Rule 11.M, which states that a player may return the ball around the outside of the net post. Rule 11.M.1 clarifies that the ball does not need to travel back over the net. Rule 11.M.2 adds that there is no restriction on height — meaning the ball may legally travel around the post below the height of the net itself.
The common misconception is that the net acts as an invisible wall extending beyond the posts. It does not. The net is only a boundary for shots that cross above it between the two posts. Once the ball exits the court laterally — past the net post — the height restriction disappears. This is why an ATP that dips below the net line during its arc is still valid, provided the landing is inbounds.
Two fault conditions apply. First, you cannot touch the net, net post, or your opponent’s court while the ball is live. Second, anything you’re wearing or holding — paddle, hat, clothing — cannot touch the opponent’s side of the court before your shot lands. Momentum carry can create situations where your body crosses the plane; if that happens before the ball has clearly landed inbounds, it’s a fault.
ATP vs. a Regular Shot: What Makes It Different
The following comparison breaks down the key differences across three dimensions:
| Dimension | ATP Shot | Standard Cross-Court Shot |
|---|---|---|
| Ball path | Around the outside of the net post | Over the net between the posts |
| Net clearance required | None — ball may pass below net height | Yes — must clear the net cord |
| Crossing angle achievable | Extreme — geometrically impossible over the net | Limited by net height physics |
| Setup requirement | Ball must be 3–4+ feet outside the sideline | Works on any ball inside the court |
| Opponent’s recovery time | Near zero if executed cleanly | Faster — less angular distance to cover |
The ATP’s advantage is permanent once conditions are met. No paddle positioning or shot power can replicate the crossing angle the ATP produces, because the geometry doesn’t exist for over-the-net shots at that court position.
When Does an ATP Opportunity Actually Happen?
A genuine ATP opportunity occurs only when the ball is pulled far enough outside the sideline — typically at least three to four feet — creating a clear angular path around the net post. Most “wide” balls in recreational play do not qualify. A ball that pulls you two feet outside the sideline is wide, but it may not provide the clearance needed to travel around the post and still land in bounds.
The trigger is specific: your opponent hits a sharply angled dink or drive that pulls you laterally beyond the sideline, and the ball is still at a hittable height. Without that extreme width, there is no around-the-post opportunity. Attempting the ATP on a merely wide ball typically results in the ball catching the post or dumping into the net.
The Trigger: Reading the Wide Angled Ball
Three situations generate genuine ATP setups.
A sharp cross-court dink at the kitchen line that bounces near your sideline and continues pulling you outward is the most common scenario. The ball’s own trajectory, combined with its angle off the bounce, creates the sideways pull that opens the post gap.
A hard cross-court drive that you chase down near the baseline is the second setup. Because drives carry more pace, they pull you further from center court, and you often have more time to recognize the angle while still in motion.
A high-bouncing ball near the sideline at transition zone depth is the third. The added height after the bounce gives you extra time to position correctly before contacting the ball.
Your body is being pulled outside or near the sideline in all three scenarios — not just moved toward it. Players who recognize this pull early have a decisive advantage: they can begin shifting into ATP positioning before the ball even bounces.
Can You Attempt an ATP in Doubles and Singles?
Yes, in both formats — but the realistic frequency differs significantly.
In doubles, genuine ATP setups are rare in recreational play. At the 3.5–4.0 level, the wide-angle dinks required to create the opening almost never occur organically during casual rallies. At the 4.5+ and professional level, players actively engineer ATP opportunities through intentional dinking sequences, pulling opponents wide through a series of cross-court dinks before delivering the final wide ball that creates the post gap. Pro players like Ben Johns and JW Johnson use this sequence deliberately — the ATP isn’t a reactive shot for them, it’s the planned endpoint of a constructed rally.
In singles, ATP opportunities arise more naturally because the court is wider relative to the number of players covering it. A well-placed cross-court drive in singles can pull your opponent’s weight outside the sideline without requiring the precise sequence coordination that doubles demands.
How to Hit the ATP Shot Step by Step
The ATP shot has four sequential components: footwork and positioning, the wait principle, swing path and contact, and landing verification. Executing any one in isolation without the others produces a fault or a miss. The four must function as a connected chain.
Step 1 — Footwork and Body Positioning
Move outside the court parallel to the sideline, tracking the ball’s lateral path rather than stopping at the sideline and reaching. The most common ATP error is planting the feet at the sideline and extending the paddle out — this reduces control and forces an off-balance swing.
The correct positioning cue: your outside foot (away from the court) should be your contact foot. Body weight stays centered, knees bent, and your paddle arm has room to swing across your body without restriction. Think of the movement pattern as a lateral chase — like a wide receiver running a comeback route, planting and turning to face the target.
Your body must remain entirely on your side of the net post plane. Any forward momentum that carries you into the opponent’s court plane before the ball lands creates a fault, regardless of the shot’s quality.
Step 2 — The “Wait” Principle: Patience Is the Shot
The longer you wait before making contact, the better the angle becomes. This is the single most counterintuitive aspect of ATP mechanics, and it’s where most attempts fail.
The instinctive reaction to a wide ball moving away from you is to hit it immediately before it escapes further. The ATP logic is the opposite. As the ball travels further outside the sideline, the arc around the post becomes wider and more open, giving you more geometrical room to direct the ball across the opponent’s court. An early contact point — taken before the ball has traveled far enough outside — produces a narrow angle that either clips the post or lands out.
The practical cue from advanced players: wait until the ball feels like it’s “almost gone” before swinging. That discomfort — the moment where your instincts say it’s too late — is usually the ideal contact window.
Step 3 — Swing Path and Contact Point
Contact the ball on its outer edge — the side of the ball furthest from the court — and swing from outside-in, directing the ball back across the court diagonally. The swing path is the reverse of a standard cross-court groundstroke.
Key contact mechanics:
- Paddle face: Open slightly to generate upward lift across the diagonal
- Contact point: At or slightly below waist height gives the best combination of control and arc
- Follow-through: Finish the swing pointing toward your opponent’s diagonal service box
Do not attempt to guide or punch the shot. The ATP requires a committed swing with full follow-through. A tentative half-swing produces insufficient pace and typically lands wide or in the net.
Step 4 — Where the Ball Must Land
The ball must land inside the correct diagonal service box — the same service box that would have received the original shot. Even though the ATP’s flight path bypasses the net entirely, the landing zone is identical to any other legal return.
This is where players who volley the ATP (taking it out of the air before it bounces) sometimes misjudge the landing target. Whether you volley or let the ball bounce first, the destination is the same: the diagonal box on your opponent’s side. A ball that lands behind the baseline or outside the sideline — despite having successfully navigated the post — is still out.
Common ATP Mistakes (and How to Fix Them)
Four errors account for the majority of failed ATP attempts. Understanding what causes each makes them correctable through deliberate practice rather than repetition alone.
Hitting too early is the most frequent mistake, as covered in the wait principle. The fix is practicing with a partner who feeds progressively wider balls until the “late contact feels right” threshold becomes instinctive.
Wrong swing path — swinging in the same outside-to-inside direction as a cross-court shot, rather than the ATP’s distinctive arc — causes the ball to travel back toward center court rather than through the post gap. Drill correction: set up a cone or marker outside the sideline at the contact point, and practice directional swings to the target box.
Misjudging whether the ball is actually wide enough leads to ATP attempts on balls that lack the geometry. Many recreational players attempt the ATP on any ball that pulls them outside the sideline, regardless of whether the post gap exists. The honest calibration: if you can still hit a clean cross-court dink from where you’re standing, the ball probably isn’t wide enough for an ATP.
Hitting the Net Post or Stepping Into the Opponent’s Court
Clipping the net post during the swing results in an immediate fault. This happens when the swing arc passes through the post plane before the ball clears it, or when the player’s positioning leaves insufficient clearance between the paddle path and the post. The correction is positioning the body slightly further back — taking the contact point a split second later so the post is already behind the contact zone.
Stepping into the opponent’s court during the follow-through is the second fault condition players regularly miss. If your follow-through momentum carries your foot, paddle, or clothing across the imaginary plane extending from the net post before the ball has landed inbounds, it is called as a fault even if the shot itself would have been clean. Practice with a physical boundary marker — a cone or line — placed at the net post plane to build spatial awareness during the follow-through.
Is the ATP Worth Attempting in Recreational Play?
At the 4.0+ level, yes — when the setup is genuine. At the 3.0–3.5 level, the ATP is almost always the wrong choice, and here’s the reasoning: a genuine ATP setup (ball 3–4 feet outside the sideline at a hittable height and pace) is rare in recreational play. When it does appear, most players at sub-4.0 haven’t built the contact mechanics or wait-patience to convert it reliably.
The high-percentage alternative for most recreational players on a wide ball is the clean reset — taking pace off the ball and placing it short into the kitchen, resetting the rally to neutral — or the defensive lob, which buys time to recover position. Both shots have a higher success rate at the 3.0–3.5 level than an attempted ATP and are strategically correct: you can still win the point from neutral position; you cannot win the point by forcing an ATP and faulting.
The strategic calculus shifts at 4.0+ because: (a) you have practiced the mechanics enough to convert realistic setups at a meaningful rate, and (b) opponents at this level are better at exploiting a missed return than recreational players, making the reset less protective and the ATP’s outright winner more valuable.
The rule: attempt the ATP only when you’ve practiced enough to know your own conversion rate. A shot you attempt without knowing whether you can execute it isn’t a tactical choice — it’s a coin flip.
By now you have a solid grasp of how the ATP works mechanically — from reading the wide-angled ball to the correct swing path and landing zone. Mastering the ATP, however, is less about raw technique and more about training the instinct to recognize the setup before it disappears. The next section covers the finer details — deliberate practice methods, how the ATP compares to the Erne, and whether your current skill level actually makes it a high-percentage option.
Going Deeper on the ATP: Practice, Comparisons, and Strategic Context
The Partner Wide-Feed Drill — How to Build ATP Mechanics Faster
The most efficient ATP drill is the partner wide-feed combined with video review. One partner stands at the kitchen line and feeds the ball diagonally wide, past the sideline, at progressively increasing widths. The drilling player chases each ball and attempts the ATP. Five minutes of recorded attempts — reviewed immediately — reveals the error pattern faster than twenty minutes of unobserved repetition.
Why video matters: the two most common errors (contact too early, wrong swing path) are invisible to the player in motion. From the outside, both errors look identical — the ball misses — but they require opposite corrections. Video separates them instantly.
The pickleball drills for advanced players that include erne footwork patterns are the best complement to the partner wide-feed drill — both advanced shots require the same lateral explosiveness outside the court boundary.
ATP vs. Erne: Two Advanced Shots, Very Different Situations
The ATP and Erne are frequently confused because both involve the player moving outside the standard court boundary to hit a winner. The distinction is categorical:
| Dimension | ATP | Erne |
|---|---|---|
| Ball position | Wide outside the sideline (3–4+ feet) | At or near the kitchen corner, short |
| Player movement | Lateral chase away from center | Forward jump to the kitchen corner or beyond |
| Ball trajectory | Around the outside of the net post | Over or around the kitchen corner post |
| Setup trigger | Opponent’s wide-angle dink or drive | Opponent’s predictable dink to the corner |
| Height requirement | Ball may be low (below net height) | Typically requires ball at paddle height or above |
The setup triggers are opposite: an ATP is a reactive chase of a ball pulling you outward; an Erne is a proactive jump to a corner position based on anticipating a predictable dink. A player attempting an Erne movement on an ATP ball — or vice versa — will miss both the shot and the point.
For a detailed breakdown of this distinction, see pickleball ATP vs Erne difference — which covers how to read the pre-shot cues that tell you which advanced shot the rally is setting up.
Should 3.5 Players Attempt the ATP? Honest Probability Check
At 3.5, the ATP should be practiced but not prioritized in match play. The calculation is straightforward: if your practice ATP conversion rate is below 40%, attempting it in a close match is statistically negative-EV. You are giving the opponent the point more often than you are winning it.
The threshold for making the ATP a match-play tool is around a 50–60% conversion rate on genuine setups — meaning balls that are 3–4 feet outside the sideline at the right height and pace. Below that number, the defensive reset or lob produces better outcomes over a full match.
The insight that separates 4.5 players from 3.5 players isn’t that the 4.5 player hits more ATPs — it’s that they know when not to hit it. Understanding the pickleball reset shot as the correct high-percentage response to most wide balls creates the mental framework to deploy the ATP appropriately when a genuine window opens.

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